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Forever vs Classic: what changed

Everything the two game clients' own data shows has changed between Classic Era and WoW Forever: talents and abilities for all 9 classes, buffs, debuffs, racials, tank and healer kits. Pick what you play for, and the tabs show only what matters there.

Forever beta 1.60.1.70291 · Classic Era 1.15.9.69722 · page built 2026-10-09

In short

  1. Group buffs cover the whole raid

    Forever: 5 of 5 reach the whole raid. Classic: 5 of 5 reach the target's party.

    RaidRead more →
  2. Caster debuffs only help the caster

    Forever: 0 of 5 do; all 5 help only the one who applied them (aura 270, 271, 308).

    RaidRead more →
  3. All 9 talent trees changed

    141 new talents, 107 gone and 237 changed; 23 new abilities outside the trees and 20 no longer learnable.

    All contextsRead more →
  4. The paladin is a real tank

    Forever: Holy Strike (level 6), Seal of Fury (level 10), Judgement of Fury (level 25), Hammer of the Righteous (level 40) · Improved Righteous Fury: −6 % damage taken · Holy Shield: 110 damage per block.

    RaidRead more →
  5. Racials reshuffled

    11 Classic racials gone, 14 new, 15 changed, and a race line Classic does not have: Skyborne (5 racials).

    All contextsRead more →

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Overview

The eight raid changes

The differences that change how a raid is put together. They are tagged Raid by hand; the other tags come from the same text rules as everything else.

2

Curse of the Elements covers every magic school

Raid

Classic Era 1.15.9.69722

Fire + Frost · −75 resistances, +10 % damage taken · 3 ranks, level 32–60. Curse of Shadow covers Shadow + Arcane (level 44–56)

Forever 1.60.1.70291

all six magic schools · −75 resistances, +10 % damage taken · 4 ranks, level 20–50. Curse of Shadow: not learnable

Who it affects: One warlock curse slot now lifts every caster school

3

The five-second rule matters less

Raid

Classic Era 1.15.9.69722

Meditation 15 % · Reflection 15 % · Arcane Meditation 15 % of mana regeneration while casting. Mindfulness, Reverence: not in Era

Forever 1.60.1.70291

Meditation 50 % · Reflection 50 % · Arcane Meditation 50 % · new: Mindfulness (Shaman) 50 % · Reverence (Paladin) 30 % · Bestial Discipline (Hunter) 50 %

Who it affects: Healers and Arcane mages

4

The paladin's buff talents are gone

Raid

Classic Era 1.15.9.69722

8 of the 13 Era paladin talents that Forever dropped are Aura or Blessing talents. Blessing of Kings is a Protection talent

Forever 1.60.1.70291

Sanctity Aura and Greater Blessing of Sanctuary not learnable · Blessing of Kings trainable at level 20, no talent needed

Who it affects: Every raid with a paladin

6

The paladin is a real tank

Raid

Classic Era 1.15.9.69722

Holy Strike, Seal of Fury, Judgement of Fury, Hammer of the Righteous: not in the Era kit · Improved Righteous Fury: +50 % threat · Holy Shield: 65 damage per block

Forever 1.60.1.70291

Holy Strike (level 6), Seal of Fury (level 10), Judgement of Fury (level 25), Hammer of the Righteous (level 40) · Improved Righteous Fury: −6 % damage taken · Holy Shield: 110 damage per block

Who it affects: Protection paladins and the raid lead who assigns tanks

8

Tanks and utility

Raid

Classic Era 1.15.9.69722

  • Defiance: +15 % threat in Defensive Stance
  • Improved Taunt: a talent
  • Faerie Fire (Feral): a talent
  • Feral Instinct: +15 % threat in bear form
  • Tranquil Air Totem: level 50
  • Trueshot Aura: +50 ranged attack power
  • Leader of the Pack: aura 52, 45 yards

Forever 1.60.1.70291

  • Defiance: +15 %, only with a shield equipped
  • Improved Taunt: gone
  • Faerie Fire (Feral): gone
  • Feral Instinct: no threat; +30 % Swipe damage
  • Tranquil Air Totem: not in Spell.db2
  • Trueshot Aura: +30 ranged attack power
  • Leader of the Pack: aura 290, 45 yards, exclusive with Moonkin Aura

Who it affects: Warrior and bear tanks; hunters and shamans in melee groups

Nothing here matches this filter.

Talent changes per class

141New talents
107Gone talents
237Changed talents
23New abilities
20Not learnable
New talents
Druid18
Hunter18
Mage11
Paladin19
Priest14
Rogue10
Shaman17
Warlock22
Warrior12
Gone talents
Druid13
Hunter14
Mage6
Paladin13
Priest8
Rogue8
Shaman13
Warlock20
Warrior12
Changed talents
Druid29
Hunter21
Mage25
Paladin23
Priest29
Rogue31
Shaman23
Warlock25
Warrior31

Solid: tagged for the chosen filter (under All: tagged for any)Faded: no tag, counted only under All

Sources and evidence

Source: SpellEffect, SpellLevels, SkillLineAbility and SpellAuraOptions from both clients (1.15.9.69722: 40250 effect rows · 1.60.1.70291: 42568), plus the pipeline's talent diff (9 classes) and baseline-ability diff. Follows: the two client builds named in the column heads.

How the tags are set: each rule is a text match on the change's own tooltip text, written once in the generator. A match is not a judgement of how much the change matters.

TagGiven when the change's own text…
Raidtouches raid buff, debuff, threat, dispel, interrupt, mana regen (the raid categories)
(?:party|raid|group members|allies|friendly target|nearby (friendly|members)|aura)|(?:target (takes|to take)|increas\w* (the )?(damage|chance)[^.]*taken|armor o…
Raidheals other players or improves healing spells
heal(s|ing)? (a|an|the|up to|all|nearby|your)? ?(friendly|target|party|raid|group|allies|members)|healing (spells?|done|effects?|received)|amount healed|\b(Heal…
except: heals? (you|the caster|yourself)\b
Raidraises hit chance or lowers resists (bosses are three levels above you)
chance to hit|hit chance|chance to be resisted|chance to resist your|resist(ed)? chance
Solo & levelingtouches pets or demons, self-healing, run speed, out of combat, mounts, gathering, experience or kills
\bpets?\b|your (summoned )?demons?|minion|\bImp\b|Voidwalker|Succubus|Felhunter|heals? (you|the caster)\b|restores? [^.]*health|regenerate[^.]*health|out of com…
PvPtouches crowd control, escapes, slows, roots, disarms, immunities, stealth or interrupts
\bstun|snare|\broot|immobiliz|\bfear|horror|silenc|interrupt|disarm|polymorph|\bsap\b|\bblind|daze|\bslow|movement speed|movement impairing|escape|immun|charm|i…
PvPnames a control or escape ability, or reflects spells, purges or burns mana (the talent name Reflection does not count)
\b(Cheap Shot|Kidney Shot|Gouge|Garrote|Hamstring|Wing Clip|Concussive Shot|Scatter Shot|Frost Nova|Cone of Cold|Counterspell|Psychic Scream|Howl of Terror|Deat…
PvPlowers the chance to be hit or crit, or the damage you take
chance (you are|to be) (critically )?hit|critical strikes against you|chance to be hit|damage taken by you|damage you take
All contextsmatches none of the rules. It shows only under the All filter, never under Raid, Solo & leveling or PvP.

Source: talent-diff.json (1.60.1.70291 against 1.15.9.69722): 485 new, gone or changed talents. Talent text is the top rank; Wowhead's tooltip shows rank 1. Follows: the talent diff of these two builds.

By class

Every talent that is new, gone or changed, and every ability outside the trees that was added, renamed or can no longer be learned. Changed text is marked: Classic only and Forever only.

Druid

65 changes · 5 talents unchanged (not listed)

New talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Changed talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Gone talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

New abilities outside the tree

Nothing here matches this filter.

Abilities no longer learnable

Nothing here matches this filter.

Hunter

64 changes · 11 talents unchanged (not listed)

New talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Changed talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Gone talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

New abilities outside the tree

Nothing here matches this filter.

Renamed abilities

Nothing here matches this filter.

Abilities no longer learnable

Nothing here matches this filter.

Mage

45 changes · 18 talents unchanged (not listed)

New talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Changed talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Gone talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

New abilities outside the tree

Nothing here matches this filter.

Abilities no longer learnable

Nothing here matches this filter.

Paladin

66 changes · 8 talents unchanged (not listed)

New talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Changed talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Gone talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

New abilities outside the tree

Nothing here matches this filter.

Renamed abilities

Nothing here matches this filter.

Abilities no longer learnable

Nothing here matches this filter.

Priest

53 changes · 10 talents unchanged (not listed)

New talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Changed talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Gone talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

New abilities outside the tree

Nothing here matches this filter.

Rogue

51 changes · 12 talents unchanged (not listed)

New talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Changed talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Gone talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

New abilities outside the tree

Nothing here matches this filter.

Abilities no longer learnable

Nothing here matches this filter.

Shaman

59 changes · 10 talents unchanged (not listed)

New talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Changed talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Gone talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

New abilities outside the tree

Nothing here matches this filter.

Abilities no longer learnable

Nothing here matches this filter.

Warlock

73 changes · 5 talents unchanged (not listed)

New talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Changed talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Gone talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Renamed abilities

Nothing here matches this filter.

Abilities no longer learnable

Nothing here matches this filter.

Warrior

57 changes · 9 talents unchanged (not listed)

New talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Changed talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

Gone talents

Nothing here matches this filter.

New abilities outside the tree

Nothing here matches this filter.

Abilities no longer learnable

Nothing here matches this filter.

Sources and evidence

Source: talent-diff.json and baseline-abilities-diff.json (1.60.1.70291 against 1.15.9.69722); ability texts from Spell.db2 with their own numbers filled in. A text with formulas the page cannot fill is left out (hover for the tooltip). Follows: the two client builds.

"Not learnable" means no trainer row in Forever's client tables. The Era client also carries spells from other Classic seasons, so some of these may never have been in plain Classic.

Buffs & debuffs

Buffs

The group buffs reach the whole raid in Forever. In Classic they reached the target's party, so a raid needed one cast per group.

Group buffs

Classic

Reaches the target's party

285 armor, 12 all attributes

Level 60 · target 37

Forever

Reaches the whole raid

385 armor, 16 all attributes

Level 60 · target 56

Classic

Reaches the target's party

31 Intellect

Level 56 · target 37

Forever

Reaches the whole raid

31 Intellect

Level 56 · target 56

Classic

Reaches the target's party

54 Stamina

Level 60 · target 37

Forever

Reaches the whole raid

70 Stamina

Level 60 · target 56

Classic

Reaches the target's party

40 Spirit

Level 60 · target 37

Forever

Reaches the whole raid

40 Spirit

Level 60 · target 56

Classic

Reaches the target's party

60 Shadow resistance

Level 56 · target 37

Forever

Reaches the whole raid

60 Shadow resistance

Level 56 · target 56

Classic

Reaches one class in the raid

10 % total stats

Level 60 · target 61

Forever

Reaches one class in the raid

10 % total stats

Level 60 · target 153

+3 % crit in both, 45 yards in Classic and 45 in Forever. The aura changes from 52 to 290, and Forever's tooltip says it does not stack with Moonkin Aura.

Nothing here matches this filter.

Debuffs: whole raid or only the caster

In Classic these debuffs made the target take more damage from everyone (aura 87) or be crit more by every Frost caster (aura 569). In Forever the caster debuffs carry auras 270, 271, 308: they only count for the player who applied them. Curse of the Elements keeps aura 87 and now covers all six magic schools.

Debuffs

Nothing here matches this filter.

Sources and evidence

Source: SpellEffect ImplicitTarget and base points, SpellRadius, SpellLevels; 1.15.9.69722 and 1.60.1.70291. "Top rank" is the highest rank in the data, at its own level. Follows: the spell id on each card.

Source: SpellEffect EffectAura, base points and school mask, SpellAuraOptions stacks and charges; 1.15.9.69722 and 1.60.1.70291. Improved Shadow Bolt's Forever value is the talent's top rank (the debuff spell itself holds the rank-1 value). Follows: the spell id on each card.

Roles

Which raid changes each role should read first, then what is new in the tank and healer kits. The links jump to the change on the Overview tab.

New in the tank kit

15 new talents and abilities whose text matches the tanks rule. A text match, not a ranking.

Nothing here matches this filter.

New in the healer kit

14 new talents and abilities whose text matches the healers rule. A text match, not a ranking.

Nothing here matches this filter.

Sources and evidence

Source: the raid changes, grouped by who they affect; kit lists = new talents and abilities whose text matches the role rule. Follows: the Overview tab and the By class data.

KitText rule
Tanksthreat|taunt|\bblock|parry|dodge|defense skill|damage you take|physical damage taken|armor (value|contribution)|Defensive Stance|Bear Form|Dire Bear|Righteous Fury
Healersheal(s|ing)? (a|an|the|up to|all|nearby|your)? ?(friendly|target|party|raid|group|allies|members)|healing (spells?|done|effects?|received)|amount healed|\b(Healing Touch|Regrowth|Rejuvenation|Swiftmend|Tranquility|Holy Light|Flash of Light|Lay on Hands|Flash Heal|Greater Heal|Prayer of Healing|Renew|Power Word: Shield|Healing Wave|Lesser Healing Wave|Chain Heal)\b
except: heals? (you|the caster|yourself)\b

Racials

Each race's racial skill line in both clients, matched by spell id and by name. 11 racials gone, 14 new, 15 with changed text, 1 renamed.

Human

5 racials in Classic · 4 in Forever

Nothing here matches this filter.

Unchanged: Perception 20600 The Human Spirit 20598

Dwarf

4 racials in Classic · 4 in Forever

Nothing here matches this filter.

Unchanged: Find Treasure 2481

Night Elf

5 racials in Classic · 5 in Forever

Nothing here matches this filter.

Gnome

4 racials in Classic · 4 in Forever

Nothing here matches this filter.

Skyborne

Not in Classic: a new race line · 5 in Forever

Nothing here matches this filter.

Orc

4 racials in Classic · 4 in Forever

Nothing here matches this filter.

Undead

4 racials in Classic · 4 in Forever

Nothing here matches this filter.

Unchanged: Underwater Breathing 5227 Cannibalize 20577

Tauren

4 racials in Classic · 4 in Forever

Nothing here matches this filter.

Unchanged: War Stomp 20549

Troll

5 racials in Classic · 4 in Forever

Nothing here matches this filter.

Unchanged: Berserking 20554 Beast Slaying 20557

Sources and evidence

Source: SkillLineAbility on the racial skill lines, SpellName and Spell.db2 descriptions; both builds. Follows: the line-to-race map copied from race-score.mjs.

"Gone" means not on the race's skill line in Forever. The client has no second table that links racials to races, so this is the widest check the data allows.

What can still change

30Beta level cap
21 / 21Warrior notes not in 70291
7Patch-note items the client cannot show
Sources and evidence

Source: Blizzard's development notes and Warrior update, checked against the client data in the pipeline's patch-note note (2026-10-03). Follows: the latest Forever build on wago.tools.